Jennifer Kates: How became involved. Friends sick and
dying. Community level work, came to WWS knowing wanted to do
policy work.
Set the stage. AIDS identified in 1981. Go back to 1984 when
had identified the virus. Test for HIV not available until 1985.
First antiretroviral not approved until 1987. So almost entire
first decade of AIDS there was nothing. Void in available
treatments. Void filled by activism in research and treatment.
Changed way in which government was organized in doing research,
approve drugs, in way business is done.
Timeline of key events on Kaiser Foundation website.
Joao Biehl: Brazil made history in field of AIDS. in 1996
first to universalize access to AIDS therapies, because of
unexpected alliance of activists, industry, and govt. AIDS
mortality subsequently fell by 70%. Challenge for other countries
with AIDS.
To understand Brazil, investigated how therapies mixed with
politics. Began when called by activist organization in 1992 to
see what was happening at grassroots level. Was there when poor
patients squatted in abandoned hospital and set up own care.
Returned to see how they established selves. 1996, went back to
see what difference antiretrovirals did in this community.
In the beginning of the book, show how in 90's, AIDS activists
actively participated in policy making. Design and prevention
work, claiming access to medicines as a human right. passed
legislation.
Government put in place infrastructure to manufacture drugs by
reverse engineering of antiretrovirals. Strong national and
interanational support. Brazil had cheap first-line AR, but
patients need new drugs. Budget has doubled. Public health center
on pharma distribution needed to keep rollout in place.
On the ground administrative problems abound. Variations in
AIDS care have emerged. Ex-patients rarely become activists now.
Politics of survival.
Evan Lieberman:
Experience in South Africa, which is tragic example of spread
of AIDS. In 1991 was member of policy task force, sent as junior
to South Africa to do field research. Weren't focussed on AIDS but
on post-apartheid transition. But remember walking through
township and knew that AIDS had become a problem. Stopped at
traditional healer. He said AIDS no problem, had a cure on his
shelf.
Returned to SA again in 1997-98. Was doing work on taxation
and other issues. Started reading about AIDS and realized then
that was what wanted to do research on. Why would a country in the
face of this epidemic... when we know how to prevent the spread...
why would countries respond in such different ways? I was working
on prevention, not treatment. Midway through project, realized
treatment was part of the game. Brazil made treatment a viable
reality. At Princeton have been able to host a colloquium series
on impact of treatment. AIDS may sound like medical issue but is
profound social issue.
David Barr:
Been doing AIDS work since 1985. Communities affected by AIDS
were the first to respond. First, develop basic support mechanisms
for people on death beds. How to care for people, get info out.
Second level of mobilization was education, safe sex, prevention
approaches to HIV. Next level of advocacy came with demand for
treatment and look at research and drug development process.
Other than scientific advances, all of the major advances in
HIV response since 1981 came from people with AIDS.
Has led to most ambitious public health undertaking in
history. Getting drugs out to developing world tremendous
challenge. Empowerment theory is particularly valuable for HIV.
Need long-term engagement from people who are affected. Individual
empowerment essential to overcome stigma of AIDS.
Christina Paxson:
Question for panelists: is HIV/AIDS activism exceptional?
How is this different than access to treatment of malaria and other
health problems.
Kates: Yes and no. In some ways, when look at history of
AIDS activism it does follow from social movements that have
responded to other issues. Some of the tactics are similar to
civil rights movement, etc. But some exceptional aspects as well,
and some of these are helping activism in other areas as
well.
One exception is the nature of disease itself. Communities in
our country experiencing epidemic in different ways. Globally,
have altered age structures and life expectancies. What's unique
about HIV is primarily affecting young people who contribute to
society. That had not occurred in this way before. Reverse life
expectancy gains in some countries.
Secondly, behaviors that put people at risk are culturally
stigmatized. Not the same as SARS or malaria.
Third unique aspect is that way the social movement has been
about identity.
Another aspect, in US in particular, one of the first
communities most affected was gay community meant that part of that
response involved very creative use of media, art, now a big part
of what happens in other activist movements now.
Lieberman: book by Margaret King about transnational
activists. talk about boomerang model. Local activists have
concern, try to get policy changed, state blocks it, it comes back
around through transnational networks, comes back around through
international orgs like UN, force swirl around and clunks
government back in the head. That model applies to AIDS,
environment, other types of issues. In that way AIDS not unique.
But some features like sex, blood, and drugs have heightened
intensity of movement.
AIDS different from other diseases because other diseases
don't have the compelling narratives. Now see other diseases
getting some attention because of attention given to AIDS.
Biehl: Encroachment of activism within the state. Activists
end up doing efficient work for a government that was at a loss.
Couch work in terms of right to life. Nov 96, Brazil signed
property rights agreement. Following year increase in drugs
significant. There are many threshholds to cross. new landscapes
emerge. AIDS activism in Brazil set the tone. Became a model of
activism today. Pattients are claiming right to citizenship in
terms of access to medicines. Pharmas lobby activists to lobby
government for access to medicines.
Barr: in the US, convergence of agendas in 80s and 90s. Bush
and Quayle behind more rapid drug approval industry. Pharma and
government's initial response to treatment activists asking to be a
part of the process was "no way". A few key people opened the
door. Once got to the table, there was a transformation in
thinking. Getting patients involved in drug development.
AIDS exceptional in that there is no cure. So public health
practices for things such as TB won't work for AIDS. Sometimes
think AIDS is exceptional in that serve as catalyst for change...
will transform how look at health delivery around the world and the
right to health.
Paxson: Why activism successful in some countries and not in
others? How social movements concerning AIDS have changed over
time?
Biehl: Interviewed several key players over time. Very aware
that activism became professionalized. Also end up enhancing
administrative capacity of the state. In the process had this
group of activists ensuring access to ARV.
At national level, Brazilian NGOs trying to establish
partnerships with other countries. Now also network of technology
transfer. Trying to find cheaper technologies, therapies. But on
local level, NGOs not keeping pace wtih demands of the
illness.
Barr: More activism in the world than people may know about.
Last couple of years spending time with people in China, India,
Russia - in Russia, all got infected when shot heroin as kids and
now are activists. Lot of factors differ from country to country.
poverty, communications, history of civil society. e.g. took a lot
longer to get things going in Russia than South Africa. But this
notion of people with HIV become empowered and responding to their
situation is universal.
How has activism changed over time? We have done a bad job of
training people in the US. Professionalism is essential, but AIDS
is a big issue now and there are NGOs that exist just to keep
funding streams moving.
Lieberman: Compares Botswana, S. Africa, India. Wide variety
of success rates. AIDS have driven some movements forward, but
also generated a lot of opposition. No strict preconditions to
success. AIDS not understood as risk everywhere. Even in parts of
SA where high incidence. Social boundaries play huge role. e.g.
countries where divisive ethnic boundaries, that is a barrier to
success. In countries with more fluid boundaries, awareness of
shared risk, easier to ask govt to do something about it.
Kates: Treatment activism. Russia has poor access, but
people are becoming empowered. But because of lack of civil
society, government lack of response, not relatively successful.
When individual has concept of survival, and why it is important,
that is a driving force, and a common part of the movements that
have formed. I deserve to survive and am going to demand of
governments the right to survive.
In terms of movement changing over time, in the US, has been
coopted in some ways, not necessarily bad. part of research
process. Some of loss of activism knowledge because of death.
Movement successful in the beginning, became part of institutions
today. No precedent for what is the next phase of activism? Why
haven't been able to mobilize?
General questions:
Q: I understand that in Brazil, AIDS not demonized. Catholic
church didn't stand in the way. On the board of an AIDS ministry
in Houston. African-american megachurch. Because don't feel
acknowledged by greater AIDS community... question is, why is there
no african-american on the panel?
Barr: Treatment changed activism in the US. Allowed
middle-class white gay men to become complacent. Threat has been
addressed so will go on with life. AIDS increasingly becoming
disease of color and poverty.
Kates: Impact on black community so striking. Empowered
black activists are leading the movement, working with church,
trying to work with organizations that reach the black community.
We're always too late. 50% of new AIDS cases are among
african-americans. That started 10 years ago. What happens with
HIV is that once we get to that aha moment, and realize community
has been affected, it's almost too late to get ahead of it. That's
why intervention is so hard. Have to reach that point before
getting a response.
Biehl: why black leadership so slow in addressing it?
Barr: black leaders fought against needle exchange. did not
acknowledge high rate. has been incredibly slow to respond. would
say same about leadership of women's movement.
Kates: Like South Africa, when faced with so many problems,
it is daunting to take on yet another.
Lieberman: need to think about this as politics of empathy.
need to think about all in this together. Another thing to
remember is that AIDS takes 7-10 years to be symptomatic.
Biehl: have worked with social epidemiologists. Have found
about 3/4 of population unaccounted for. Survival rate of
African-Brazilians much lower, access to treatment much lower.
Race and class are huge factors. One of huge challenges is for
organization to cut across these lines. Complicated to sustain
rollout of campaign
Q: about tactics. Really cool street tactics. Wondering
what you see as connection between those things and the policy
world, and whether played a role. how does compare to civil rights
or peace movement.
Barr: I planned FDA demo. We wrote, asked for discussion,
they didn't respond. Eventually said had to go and take over the
building. A lot of debate about that demo and where to hold it.
1,000 people took it over and got a lot of publicity. After that
demo, they returned our phone calls and everything changed. Same
with pharma. A lot of demos but pharma wouldn't respond except to
press. The other piece that was important is that we were really
angry.
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